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we'll ask her lawyer will the u.s. really send her back? and he was the cia director who couldn't keep one of thinks own deepest secrets. tonight former general david petraeus starts his reputation rae had a bi rehabilitation tour. good afternoon. the world lead is now. memory is almost always a tricky thing and the fog of war, and a definitive, unanimous account can be impossible. despite the intense preparations and elaborate official government explanations the story of what really happened on the night osama bin laden was killed is still unclear. there are differing accounts from the obama administration and the book written by one of the s.e.a.l.s and most recently in a highly publicized esquire magazine article. in a cmn exclusive report we're getting a different take on how the leader of al qaeda was killed from one of the s.e.a.l.s who raided bin laden's compound. >> reporter: for a nation still grieving in many ways, it was a

well-needed victory in the war on terror. >> the united states has conducted an operation that killed bosama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda. >> and for a president running for re-election during a tough economic time, it was touted as his signature foreign policy accomplishment. >> osama bin laden is dead, and general mo it totors is alive. >> osama bin laden was dead and the elite squad of men who took him out instantly became anonymous legends. >> osama. >> and action movie characters. >> a possible jackpot. >> details of the raid were sketchy at first, but soon the white house put out an official narrative of what happened. >> it was a firefight. he, therefore, was killed in that firefight. and that's when the remains were removed. >> but even after president obama met with members of s.e.a.l. team six, he still didn't know the answer to one critical question. who delivered the shot that killed bin laden? in the subsequent days and weeks after the raid the members of

s.e.a.l. team six splintered, several of them offering different accounts of what went down inside bin laden's complex that night. >> we both engaged in several more. >> first up the s.e.a.l. calling himself mark owen in disguise on "60 minutes." his can account is described in the best-selling book "no easy day" has his spotting bin laden's head poking out from a door frame. another s.e.a.l. he dubs the point man fired the first shot then rushed into the room. >> you stepped into the room and saw the man lying on the floor. what did you do? >> myself and the next assaulter in, we both engaged in several more times and then rolled off and then continued clearing the room. >> when you say you engaged him, what do you mean? >> fired. >> you shot him? >> yeah. >> but soon enough a new s.e.a.l. emerged on the cover of "esquire magazine" saying he was the shooter and that he stared down osama bin laden face-to-face and shot him in the forehead. journalist phil bronstein wrote the article. >> the shooter rolled into the bedroom on the right-hand side and ultimately right there faced

bin lad osama bin laden less than a foot away from his gun and shot him there three times in the forehead. >> but now a third s.e.a.l. team six member comes forward with his side of the story as told to one of the few journalists to ever meet bosama bin laden cnn national security analyst peter bergen. and peter bergen joins me now with this exclusive report. in ait decision to meeting bin laden you visited the compound are where he was killed. tell us the third s.e.a.l.'s account. >> the third s.e.a.l.'s account is actually very close to what mark owen told "60 minutes." the point man saw bin laden stick his head out of his bedroom, shot him, mortally wounded him, and then two more s.e.a.l.s came in and finished him off on the floor, mark owen and the shooter in the "esquire" article. the difference here is the shooter in the "esquire" article can as you said in your piece shoots bin laden while he's standing up, looks like he's going maybe for a gun. the s.e.a.l. team member i spoke to said that's completely false.

b bin laden couldn't have reached for a gun because his guns were somewhere else, which they only found later, that bin laden was not shot by this guy in the "esquire" article in the way it described. jay, of course this all happened at night, they were all wearing night vision goggles. there was no electricity in the ilding or the neighborhood. it is a confusing situation. but that said, there seems to be a preponderance of people saying that the "esquire" account is not an accurate account. >> and what's the biggest discrepancy? is it just who pulled the tryinger? >> partly who pulled the trigger. one can account is much less heroic than the others. the people pushing what they say is the real account is the one that isn't that heroic where bin laden is sort of finished off on the floor, a lucky shot, as opposed to a man-to-man -- >> reach for the gun, right. >> and so that's the difference. and also there's a difference of opinion which of the s.e.a.l.s was really responsible. the point man everybody says in

a million years is not going to go public. i don't know his name. the shooter we only know by pseudonym. this is hidden behind secrecy. that said, we're getting a better account with every account in some sense about what really happened that night. we're never going to get to 100%. the building is demolished. nonetheless, i think the person i spoke to and other people that i've spoken to suggest that the "esquire" article is off. >> none of these guys are supposed to be talking to anybody. >> right. >> what's going on? >> well, the guy i spoke to on s.e.a.l. team six said this is serious lockdown on this issue and, of course, many of them signed nondisclosure agreements, they belong to a unit that actually is supposedly covert and is in many ways. so what's going on this is a huge event. if somebody said to me he was on s.e.a.l. team six, people had had a neil armstrong moment. and it's hard to process that. how do you deal with that? some people deal with it by

saying nothing. others by saying something which may turn out to be inaccurate. >> peter bergen, thank you so much. you can read peter's full report on cnn.com. we'll have more on the details of how bin laden died later in "the situation room" with wolf blitzer at 6:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. kim jong-un, they are putting people on high alert. the communist country threatened to attack bases in the pacific and earlier this month vowed a nuclear attack on america leading up to a security council vote. they say they are capable of defending against any threat from north korea. she's been through two murder trials twice already. i guess they need a tiebreaker perhaps. italian security judges have ruled that amanda knox who captivated audiences worldwide in 2009 and 2011 must be retried for the 2007 murder of knox's

british roommate, meredith kercher. there were signs she had been sexually assaulted. both knox and her ex-boyfriend were convicted in 2009 and were sentenced to more than 20 years in prison. they appealed the conviction and throughout the trial viewers could not get enough of the woman whom the european tabloids nicknamed foxy knoxy. a young american woman caught up in a scandalous murder case in an exotic place. the convictions for knox and her ex were overturned for lack of evidence freeing knox to return home to seattle, write a book about her ordeal and leave her two murder trials behind. that is until today. those of us here in the u.s. are left scratching our head, isn't this double jeopardy? how can knox and her ex-boyfriend face trial again for the same crime? for answers we turn to the man who successfully represented amanda knox and is doing so for her again, her lawyer joins us

from rome for a new segment we're calling explain this to me. thank you for joining us. explain this to me. there is confusion when we hear this case is going back. it sounds like there's a retrial, like double jeopardy which you are not allowed to do here in the u.s. what is going on in italy? >> well, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity. yes, i think it's necessary to explain. the system is very different from the united states. we also have here the same principle, you cannot try the same person twice for the same crime. and i want to clarify that before you have a final decision in italy you need to have three grades. so the acquittal was a second grade decision, an appeal. today we discuss the third grade with the supreme court. and the supreme court has decided to have a revision at the appeal level.

so it is the same case that is continuing, is not a retrial, is just a revision of what the supreme court has decided in acceptance of the opposition of the prosecutor from perugia. we look forward to making a comment exactly on what is going to be the object of the new appeal, which will be by procedure in a different court of appeals. so we're going to florence. the original decision i remind was from perugia. we need the motivation. today the supreme court has annulled the acquittal decision and ordered the court of florence to reinstate and revise this case. it is the same case that is continuing. >> so it's not a new case, it's the same. i understand. it's not a new case, it's the same case. how common is it for cases to go back to the supreme court and be sent back? you seem to be suggesting it's very common.

>> it is very common and happens and even the did decision of the court of florence will be impossible to appeal. because, as i said, you need to have three grades before you can consider the decision final. >> is she actually in jeopardy? could she just refuse not to go back to italy? >> that's another question. she doesn't need to be present at the hearing if she doesn't want to. there's no way the italian authority can force her to be present. she will be from now on if she decides not to come, she will be judged in absentia and the case will continue. >> and what happens if she is convicted? would she have to go back to italy, or would the u.s. -- is it possible for her just to refuse to be extradited? >> i think it's a bit early to even evaluate the possibility. we need to see, are first of

all, the motivation on which ground the case will continue. then if there's a conviction we have to see for which crime because there's one more made to amanda. and also with the condition we have to eventually see if there will be a custody, a limitation of liberty. so it's a bit early to evaluate this possibility. there's too many if, if, if. >> all right. thank you so much for explaining th that. we hope to have you back as the trial proceeds. >> thank you very much. thank you to you. drones. they're not just for killing anymore according to "the wall street journal." the unmanned spy planes will soon be used in india to help protect endangered ray knows from poachers. these drones are scaled down versions of the ones the u.s. military uses. in addition to the drones, india's federal government will send 500 additional guards to national parks. you go to an nfl game and buy a $10 beer and they're the ones getting a break from uncle sam? why? our money lead is ahead. also, in our pop lead, why

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from marriage? >> and joining me now is gavin newsom who came to hear the prop 8 case be argued before the supreme court and also brian brown, co-founder and president of the national organization for marriage. mr. lieutenant governor, if i may, i want to play something justice alito said today. >> traditional marriage has been around for thousands of years. same-sex marriage is very new. i think it was first adopted in the net herlands in 2000. so there isn't a lot of data about its effect. and it may turn out to be a -- a good thing. it may turn out not to be a good thing, as the supporters of proposition 8 apparently believe. >> so does justice alito have a point? this is relatively new. you only started handing out marriage licenses in 2004. >> yeah, i mean, sure. a

absolutely factual what he's asserting. that said, what's the constitutional question? that's what we're supposed to be adjudicating, whether or not it's constitutional to deny people based on their sexual orientation to enter into marriage. let me just assert, i have no evidence whatsoever in places like spain, since 2005 and other countries of the world where marriage is an institution has been under any sort of assault or the sky is falling in. massachusetts and elsewhere in america we haven't seen that somehow there's been this devastating or deleterious impact because they are entering into the same institution we have been afforded in our lives. >> how about that, brian? we have not seen traditional marriage, opposite sex marriage harmed in any way places where it's taken place, have we? >> that's not true at all. one need only look to what happened in massachusetts where catholic charities adoption agency, one example, is put out of business because when you redefine marriage, you redefine it for everyone. it isn't just that couple. you are say that go religious organizations and individuals that know there's a truth, that it takes a man and woman to make

a marriage, just saying that is viewed as discrimination. so in illinois, in massachusetts, in washington, d.c., religious organizations are told they can't adopt children because they're discriminating by not placing kids with same-sex couples. we've seen benefits fights. we've seen businesses. businesses that, for example, do weddings being told if you don't do same-sex weddings, again, you are discriminating. what you are doing is putting a brand-new idea into the law that there is absolutely no difference between a man and a woman coming together in marriage and two men or two women, and that those of us who think there is a difference are the functional equivalent of bigots. >> first of all, illinois doesn't have same-sex marriage -- >> it only took civil unions in illinois. they shut down the adoption agencies. >> you and i don't see the world with the same set of eyes. i have extraordinary respect and admiration for same-sex couples and loving people that care as

much about their spouses as you and i care about ours. they care about enteringing an institution of faith, love, devotion and constancy and they believe that they have the rights under the constitution of the united states, due process, equal protection to enter into that institution and i do find it interesting that people like george bush themselves thought it was important to change the constitution because by definition the president felt there was something wrong with it. he wanted a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage as a suggestive point that there's something in the constitution that the ninth circuit court of appeals agreed and the lower court in san fr francisco -- >> well, that is an interesting point. if it were in the constitution, there wouldn't be any need for a constitutional amendment. >> this is totally misreading the history. the reason you need constitutional amendments is exactly because of what's happening at the supreme court. this is not a decision the court should be making. the people of the state ofc california have a right to have their voices heard. and the reason that

constitutional amendments on the state level were passed was because activist judges at the state level beginning in massachusetts were imposing their will on the voters and basically saying we don't care what you think. this is coming whether you like it or not and we're going to force it on you. the people have a right for their voice to be heard. this is an issue in which good people can have disagreements, but the reality is that it is not -- that the majority of americans who have voted to protect traditional marriage, you can't just say those people are discriminatinging and are bigots. the majority of californians saying that they were discriminating by prop 8 wrong. >> very quickly, what do you think is going to happen based on the arguments today? very quickly. >> well, i think we're going to win. tradition traditional marriage will end up winning both in proposition 8 and in doma. >> i think they will uphold the ninth circuit appeals court and i think that decision will allow same-sex marriages as early as late june in california and hopefully it will expand beyond that. >> all right. thank you, gavin newsom and brian brown. >> thank you. an embarrassing prostitution

scanned a. now for the first time ever the secret service will be led by a woman. president obama just moments ago announced he was appointing career agent julia pearson as the new director. she takes over for mark sullivan. sullivan was in charge when agents caused a massive scandal by bringing women, including prostitutes, back to a hotel in colombia where they were staying ahead of the president's visit. 13 agents involved, eight of them lost their jobs. general david petraeus wants forgiveness, and he's asking for it in a very public way. what the former top spy is saying about his lies, his love affair, and his life after scandal. that's our buried lead and that's coming up.

it's our money lead. if you listen closely you can hear interest wall street the clinic of scotch glasses, the circumcision of cigars. traders are having one heck of a happy hour after the dow closed at a new all-time high. a little more than 20 minutes ago. i want to get our zayne asher on the camera right now standing by in new york. how high did it fly today? >> hi, jake. yeah, pretty high indeed. the dow gained 111 points to end at a new record high. the s&p closed two points away from its record high. the dow closed 14,549. the s&p is an index to watch more closely. the dow more closely tracks m mutual funds as well. it seems as though investors have shrugged off worries about

cyprus. they're instead focusing on a batch of upbeat economic reports that point to an improving economy. home prices in the u.s. rose more than 8% in january compared to the same time a year ago, the biggest year over year increase since 2006, the housing bubble burst. i also want to mention durable goods orders for big ticket manufactured items jumped more than 5.5% in february, also a good sign as well. jake? >> zain asher, thank you so much. >> would you ever consider donating your hard-earned cash to a nonprofit that clears more than $9 billion a year? well, if you went to an nfl game last year or bought officially licensed team apparel, that's exactly what you did. even we long suffering eagles fans, the nfl is a nonprofit, believe it or not. just like a few other major sports leagues that enjoys tax exempt status, tens of millions of dollars do not go to fund their communities because of

these loopholes. the teams continue to get attaboys from the president for far less in charitable works. earlier today these famous athletes were honored by the president for their achievements. >> hello, everybody. >> they were given more cheers, more adulation. the l.a. galaxy soccer team and the l.a. kings hockey players for their championship seasons and also for the work they do for their community. >> i want to give a hearty congratulations to both the kings and the galaxy one more time for bringing two championships to l.a. and for doing so much for your fans back in california. >> and they do. the players give time and their teams give donations and that's great. but let's stop for a second and examine the facts. their home state, california, is currently hundreds of billions of dollars in debt and, of course, the united states government is trillions of dollars in debt. and while the teams and players

pay taxes, this team is part of the national hockey league and this one is part of major league soccer and both of those juggernauts of jocks are tax exempt. republican of oklahoma recently released a waste book, an online chronicle of careless spending. and in it coburn estimated the nation is losing at least $91 million in federal taxes from professional sports through loopholes. >> the tax exemption is just one of many subsidies. we've really socialized the cost of sports and prove advertised the profits. >> cities are cutting their team's tax breaks including security, stadiums, and sprawling parades. >> we, the people, and congress actually gave these leagues tax exemptions and it's something that we could very easily take away if we wanted and we should ask ourselves are we truly getting a return on the investment? >> just this month the atlanta mayor announced a $1 billion

plan to build a new football stadium for the falcons, at least $200 million of which will come from taxes. a sum he said would boost his city. >> our convention and tourism business employs 229,000 people. this is our core business in this town. >> it's from those tourists much of the money will come, the balance for the stadium is slated to come from hotel taxes. nevertheless the nfl also listed as a nonprofit made more than $9 billion last season, but at least they had a season. this year's nhl lockout meant the kings and other hockey teams were off the ice for three months leaving fans out in the cold while still raking in the dough. of course the players still pay huge individual taxes. it's their leagues that have the loophole. in 2007 major league baseball

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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. he's been quiet for months after resigning in shame. former general david petraeus is venturing back into the public eye as

yet another one reaches retirement age. welcome back. time for the buried lead. a story we don't think is getting enough attention. there are few things americans love more than a comeback story, but is the man who used to run the cia ready to play the prodigal son? tonight former general david petraeus comes out of the shadows after a damaging affair with his biographer, one that cost him his job and shook the obama administration. here to talk about this attempt at rehabilitation is a communications counselor who has worked for fortune 500 companies and plenty of elected officials, dan mcbegin. mr. mcgin, thank you for joining us. big question here, petraeus speaking tonight at the university, a copy of the speech obtained by "the new york times." quote, needless to say i join

you keenly aware that i am regarded in a different light now than i was a year ago. something of an understatement. dan, can he repair led an amazing the right way. he has accepted responsibility. he did admit his faults. he did resign and he's taken an enormous toll for that. and what he's doing by coming out now and speaking at this group is the right thing. i just make a point, look, we're a culture that wants to forgive and, second, we're a culture where reputations can be inflated and destroyed faster than ever before. >> what is necessary for him to be forgiven? what does he need to do in order to come back in public life? >> well, when you use the phrase forgiven, that relates to his family, to his friends. that's the personal side of it. this is a man with enormous talents. he's 60 years old. the tragedy would be if he isn't

back and being constructive and productive again, it would be a loss for all of us. now it's not without a cost. he paid a tremendous price here. he'll always have that. he knows it will always be in his biography. what he can say is, my life isn't over. judge me by everything else i do as well. you can't forget this but it has to be one part of his life not the total picture. >> i hear you when you say it's his family that needs to forgive him not the public, but you have to also agree that he was head of the cia, he was a general in charge of the war in afghanistan. he was head of centcom. this is a man who disappointed thousands if not millions of people who really believed in him. so doesn't he need to apologize to them as well? >> well, look, you make a very good point because he's in the public life. he had lived a life where he set the bar very high. he was always raising the standards, always talking about excellent and leadership, so he has to bear that cross as well. he has, you know, he lived a

public life as a military figure at the cia. but my point is, look, there is another chapter here. i think he's going to approach it with style. i think he will approach it with grace. he has one of the best advisers, bob barnett. the key is don't make it about yourself. don't ask people for sympathy. don't whine about this. accept full responsibility. put it straight out there and then focus on things you can do that aren't selfish. >> all right, communications counselor dan mcginn, thank you for joining us. it is the most exclusive club in the world, presidents of the united states. and being a member means loads of perks, free office space, travel, even stamps. and that's after you leave office. our political lead is next. [ female announcer ] the only patch for the treatment

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the politics lead. 13 hours on the senate floor. apparently that was not enough time for senator rand paul of kentucky to get everything he needed to say off his chest. he's threatening to launch another filibuster. this time he has a posse, they will have his back in a fight over second amendment rights. with me now to talk about this and other issues, ben le bolt for the obama campaign, kristen roberts, news editor for the national journal and cnn contributor ross dalfit. guys, the last filibuster greatly increased rand paul's visibility on the national stage. he spoke for 13 hours in an effort to get answers about drones. even he admitted it's a difficult thing to do. >> and i would go for another 12 hours to try to break strom thurmond's record, but i've discovered there are some limits to filibustering, and i'm going

to have to go take care of one of those in a few minutes here. >> interesting. so is this a sincere effort to fight for gun rights or is something else going on here, ross? >> i think it's a less interesting moment than the last filibuster. part of what made that such a remarkable moment was that it sort of busted partisan categories in a really interesting way. you had a libertarian republican critiquing the obama a administration on national security and being praised by conversation but also civil libertarians. >> and liberals. >> and liberals. not that many liberals. >> not rand paul, but other people. >> and democratic political operatives. >> this is more a play at the base. basically what's happened in the gun control debate since newtown is the energy behind the push for gun control has dissipated and so you have a much more modest bill probably being pushed through than i think a lot of liberals and democrats hoped for, and so what you're

left with is this kind of symbolic -- you know, he's playing to potentially republican primary voters. >> a lot of liberals, kristen, have complained this bill that they're threatening filibuster is watered down and not really that strong to begin with. >> rand paul and the other two who are planning to join him in this will always take an opportunity to make a stand on the floor. i mean, these are guys who are about making their point whether it's in line with the polling, whether it's in line with leadership. they want to get on the floor, put themselves on the record, and they know that if this bill gets through the senate, it's not going anywhere in the house, but that's not what it's all about for them. it's about getting out there and saying, yeah, this might be a base bill, something watered down, but we're not going to let you attach amendments we think are distasteful. >> something ross just talked about, public support for action, for gun control, has dissipated. the american people, according to polls, feel very differently. according to cbs polls, the

support has already dropped 10% since the sandy hook tragedy. is the window closing or is it closed? >> well, there's no doubt there is a specific window of opportunity for action here, and i think anybody who watched the images of the massacre of children in newtown saw this issue move, there hadn't been much movement the last ten years. 90% of the american people support background checks. you have a republican senator talking about filibustering that, i tell you, i read through that autopsy report on how to rebrand the party to make it no longer the party of no. >> do you think this could hurt republicans? >> not all that much because whatever happens i think as you can see from the polling the public outrage is dissipating. to a certain degree i agree with ben on such a modest piece of legislation aren't great for the gop, but i think overall you're looking at an issue where immediately after newtown there is a sense that this had shifted

the balance of power on the issue and the democrats would be able to make gains and so on. that doesn't seem to be the case and overall we've been talking about gay marriage today and the big public turn against gay marriage. this is the flip side of that, right? in general the american public has gotten more libertarian on a certain set of issues across the board. they are more likely to think gay couples should be able to get married and own handguns and democrats lose on the gun issue the way republicans have been losing on gay marriage. >> not on background checks. >> background checks -- do you honestly think that is a major and serious solution to the issue? >> i 0 do. 40% of guns are sold via private sellers whether that's online or at a gun show and there are incidences each year of people being murdered at the hand of weapons that were bought through those private sellers. >> staying on guns but just your colleague david brooks had a column today in which he talked about -- >> that guy.

>> there are other areas in the line of violence, the actions that lead to violence. he says gun acquisition is probably the link on the killing chain. probably something like 250 million guns floating around. it's hard to get a grip on past efforts and they have not dramatically reduced violence. is it a pair question to say that other areas in this line, you know, whether it's mental health or background checks are much more -- there's much more possibility for some action? >> well, absolutely. i mean, one of the most fascinating things about what's happened in the last few weeks is the sort of untold inside story about how the nra did this. you remember wayne lapierre and he was ridiculed. he was ridiculed roundly for saying that really the solution here is securing schools. in fact, the only piece of this senate bill that could probably get through both chambers right now is inkraes einkraese ee eee

funding for security. at a time americans think they won't have enough money to retire, millions are spent every year helping a handful of rich guys enjoy their golden years. here is the thing, they're all former u.s. presidents. between their pensions, making life after the oval office pretty cozy. a breakdown of just what we're all paying for. yeah, well, a lot of it, jake, is office space. here is a his 20rcal nugget for you. in 1912 congress thought about giving former presidents a pension at the tune of $25,000 a year which now is about $280,000 a year. however, today it's a whole lot more than that. as if we needed further proof that being leader of the free world is a cushy gig a new report shows that the perks keep rolling in long after a commander in chief leaves office. according to the congressional research service, taxpayers forked over $3.7 million to pay

for the four remaining presiden presidents, jimmy carter, george h.w. bush, george w. bush, and bill clinton. and that number does not include the additional money we spend on their lifetime of secret service. it's the former president's act and it became law during the eisenhower administration just after harry truman left office. after moving out of the white house, truman could barely pay his bills. since then everyone who has taken the oath has been guaranteed an enviable allowance 0. it covers their pension, office, staff, travel, even postage. and those numbers can quickly add up. george w. bush racked up a $1.3 million tab last year, the report says, part of that money went to fund office space in dallas. 8,000 square feet of it. bill clinton apparently feels like a million bucks, too. he also spent most of his money on office space. the first president bush enjoyed taxpayer funded benefits to the tune of $850,000.

and for jimmy carter, it was close to half a million. not exactly chump change especially when you factor in how much these former presidents make from book sales, speak iin engagements and appearances. bill clinton and bush 43 pocketed speaking fees in the $10 million to $15 million range just last year alone. with all the talk in congress these days about wasteful spending, you'd think lawmakers would be falling all over each other trying to rein in presidential perks. but last year when republican congressman introduce add bill to limit costs to a $200,000 pension and another $200,000 in pocket change, the bill didn't even make it out of committee. just when we thought congress couldn't see eye to eye on anything, it seems lawmakers are pretty content to let the men who have done time in the oval office run up the bill. but not everyone is looking for a paycheck. the only presidential widow, nancy reagan, turned down her

$20,000 pension last year. now, of course, the biggest expense of all is secret service. we don't know how much it is, but it's estimated within tens of millions of dollars for each fo former president. bill clinton was supposed to be the last former president to get secret certificaservice for lif just in january barack obama signed a bill that george w. bush and he and all future presidents will get lifetime secret service, too. >> a lot of money for a lot of rich guys. thank you, erin mcpike. fans of "breaking bad" want to know how it ends? just break into the lead actor's car and steal his script for the final season. that's what one guy just did. our pop culture lead is next. #%tia[

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to get off their lawn? they're probably around the same age as aerosmith front man steven tyler, the rock 'n' roll icon celebrates his 65th birthday today. and while he's now retirement age, that has not stopped tyler or many other rock stars of his era from living on the edge. ♪ dude looks like a lady >> happy birthday, steven tyler. 65 years young and dude looks like a lady. last month tyler dressed in drag to visit his old stomping grounds "american idol." the show he quit judging just last year. >> i'm going to sing a song called tell your ma, tell your pa. >> but that's the only quitting we've seen tyler do. at the age most americans want to retire, the former aerosmith front man continues to rock on. >> why won't mick jagger or steven tyler retire? billboard estimated that for five shows last year the rolling stones made $5 million per show, that's take home money. that's how much money those guys

got paid. if somebody was offering me $5 million for a couple hours' work, i might say yes no matter how old i was. ♪ where are we now >> david bowie is showing no signs of slowing down either, already thinking about the next day, literally. the aptly named album ten years in the making was a top ten release on itunes. ♪ as long as i've got my suit and tie ♪ >> it took youngster justin timberlake to dethrone bowie according to billboard. for eric clapton it's a new album and a new tour. he will be 68. why work through your golden years especially when you don't need the money? after all, it was the who that once sang i hope i die before i get old. ♪ i hope i die be i